Interventional radiologys minimally invasive approach to treatment has brought it
to the forefront of radiology. The problem is fewer radiologists are interested in IR.
Although interventional
radiology (IR) is a relatively young and still evolving specialty, its minimally invasive
approach to treatment for serious conditions, such as uterine fibroids and aortic
aneurysms, has brought IR to the forefront of radiology. IR is stretching its wings with
new procedures that offer patients shorter recovery periods and relief from symptoms
without invasive surgery, but according to one of the fields experts, there are
factors hindering IRs widespread use in the United States both in terms of
public awareness and a lack of interventionalists.
At this years annual meeting of the Radiological Society of North America (RSNA),
Gary J. Becker, M.D., FSCVIR, FACC, FACR, and 20-year practitioner of IR, gave the annual
oration in which he addressed the future of interventional radiology. In addition to the
pressing need for more radiologists in general, Becker presented data indicating that
radiologists are becoming less involved in interventional procedures even as technology
and science provide increasingly more effective ways to treat a number of disease states,
including cancer, through interventional radiology.
Becker is the assistant medical director and director of research and medical outcomes
at the Miami (Fla.) Cardiac & Vascular Institute. He spoke with Medical Imaging about
what he sees on the horizon for IR and his history with IRs specialized procedures.
How long have you been involved in IR, and what are the earliest procedures you
remember performing?
I was in my residency at Indiana University (Bloomington), and in 1978 one of the faculty
and I did the first three biliary drainages in Indiana. Actually, it was sort of a turning
point for me, because I talked to our chairman in radiology about what I was going to do
when I finished my training. I stayed at Indiana with a vague idea that radiology might
have a more significant role in treatment in the future, and I was interested in an
admitting service and more. I was looking forward to things really having some kind of an
impact, so I stayed on the faculty there after I finished my training and that was sort of
the start of it for me.
What were some the procedures that followed once you decided to stay the course
and explored IR?
I was always doing angiography throughout my training from 78 on. I had an internal
medicine internship before that. We did a lot of angiography for trauma and diagnosis of
visceral problems, for instance a lot of the work-ups that are done today for tumors with
CT scanning and MRI used to be done with angiography. Also in the late 70s we began
to do some angioplasty. Around that time, balloon angioplasty was really getting its
start.
What specific procedures are being performed now and being developed within IR?
And what procedures are they replacing, such as uterine fibroid embolization versus
hysterectomy?
A lot of women who have had uterine fibroids in the past were offered only hysterectomy as
a choice. Now they have embolization as a new alternative. The other things that are going
on in the field include the treatment of abdominal aortic aneurysm and thoracic aortic
aneurysm with endographs. They are all catheter-based procedures with fluoroscopic and
angiographic guidance without doing open repairs. The idea with endographs is to avoid
opening the abdomen to repair the aorta, or in the case of thoracic aneurysm, to avoid
opening the chest to repair the aorta when you can do it transluminally using a catheter
approach.
In our practice it has been an important thing for the past seven years. It has caught
on and there are a couple of devices that have been approved by the FDA. There are quite a
few doctors who are training in that field of practice and those would include
interventional radiologists and surgeons primarily, a few cardiologists although I
think the future says there will probably be a lot more cardiologists involved in that
area as well. Another option in the U.S. is carotid stenting as an alternative to carotid
endarterectomy for people with either very significant asymptomatic carotid stenosis or
with symptomatic carotid stenosis, symptomatic meaning TIAs (transient ischemic attack) or
stroke.
Who is performing interventional procedures, such as uterine fibroid
embolization?
Uterine fibroid embolizations are almost exclusively being performed by interventional
radiologists. There has been some interest on the part of a few of the more aggressive
gynecologists, but admittedly and they would admit this, too they just do
not have the background in angiography and radiology to begin on that sort of field of
endeavor any more than we do to begin our own practice at hysterectomy.
With other procedures, such the carotid stenting, are those radiologists
requirements changing?
Yes, I think thats an area where you are going to see a lot of overlap of practice.
For years, when carotid arteriography was done, it was done by whoever was the dominant
force in a hospital doing most of the diagnostic arteriography. In most hospitals across
the U.S. that was the radiology department and that could either be a general angiographer
or a neuro-angiographer or somebody with training in neuroradiology. In either case, it
was usually in the hands of radiologists.
In the last few years there has been a lot more aggressive behavior on the part of the
cardiologists who happen to have patients on the table for coronary catheterizations and
then have just done a little bit more anatomic searching with or without a clinically
symptomatic reason to do so. The result has been an increase in interest in catheter-based
treatments for carotid disease instead of just subjecting everybody to carotid end
arterectomy. That has gotten a lot of folks interested the neurosurgeons, the
vascular surgeons, the cardiologists, the radiologists now everybody is sort of in
the game.
What new technologies are fueling the growth in IR, and what procedures are
possible now as a result of these technologies?
I would definitely say that about the endografts. If you go back seven or eight years, we
definitely did not have any manufacturers providing us with the tools to do aortic repairs
transluminally. In fact, the few aortic aneurysms that we did in those days were done by
devices that we made at home at night at the kitchen table. I spent many a night sewing
together stents and fabric and making endografts for my patients, because there were not
alternatives. Manufacturers caught on pretty quickly though; it is a pretty intense area
of competition.
We could postulate some things that are going to happen with regard to technology.
Looking into the diagnostic realm, I think MRA is going to clearly replace catheter
angiography for the diagnostic evaluation of vascular disease. Since we are vascular and
interventional radiologists, we are going to maintain that interest and involvement in
diagnosis. Beyond that I see potential in the marriage of technologies, such as MRI
coupled with therapeutic ultrasound in the form of high-intensity focused ultrasound beams
that could be used to completely non-invasively target and destroy tumors. There are a few
companies that are working on this now, where you will be able to actually take the
imaging data set from the MRI, send a sample ultrasound beam into an area, create a little
bit of change in the tissue as a result of that and get a new MR signal. You then would
take a refined high-intensity focused ultrasound beam and go right back at the target with
a strong enough ultrasound [beam] basically to destroy the tissue. I think that is
fascinating. That is technology that is going to change how we approach things. I
dont know who is going to be doing that when it actually does happen, but I believe
that it will happen.
Right now as sort of an intermediate step to that we have patients who have cancer and
they have lesions that are metastatic in the liver and the colon, as an example. You have
a colon cancer and there are new lesions showing up in the liver and lets say they
are in a difficult place or an impossible place to resect surgically. There are ways now
to go percutaneously with the needle and guide it by ultrasound or CT, get the needle tip
in a position and then place a radiofrequency probe and actually destroy the tumor with
radiofrequency ablation. That is a nice intermediate step, because it is non-operative, it
is percutaneous, and it involves an interventional technique. And in thinking about the
most invasive, completely surgical approach to a lesion, we have that as our intermediate
step. I think we will have in the future completely non-invasive tumor ablation, which
would be done via the MR-guided, high-intensity focused ultrasound.
During your presentation at RSNA, you mentioned that there is a lack of
appropriately trained interventionalists. Why do you think there is a lack of emphasis on
IR?
We are part of a bigger problem, and the problem stems from poor estimation of manpower.
There are a lot of facets of that. One of them is that you can go back to the 1980 GMENAC
(Graduate Medical Education National Advisory Committee) report that I referred to at
RSNA. This commission was looking at the manpower needs in medicine in the future and they
made a very poor estimate. They grossly underestimated the needs for radiologists in the
year 2000. You could say a lot of things have transpired in the meantime that they would
not have been able to predict. But the real problem that is more current is that in the
1997 Balanced Budget Act there were some major Medicare cutbacks. As a result, we see an
automatic and an immediate impact on the ability to fund graduate medical education,
because graduate medical education at teaching hospitals is funded in large part out of
the Medicare budget.
Since 1997, we have seen a 7 percent reduction in the number of training slots overall
in radiology. Thats a big number, because in terms of that impact on interventional
radiology, it is great, because IR overall is only amounted to about 8 percent of
radiology trainees. In the field of interventional radiology, the number of positions
available is just about double the number of radiologists finishing training who are
really interventional radiologists. Plus, when you start looking at the impact of
encroachment issues, specialties are always encroaching on each other. When you dont
know the impact of that encroachment and you dont know what new procedures or new
activities are going to require more of a certain kind of specialist, then the manpower
needs assessment becomes even more complicated. I think for the magnitude of the job that
is out there for interventionalists, it is a very large percentage of what used to be done
surgically. It is amazing that there are only a couple thousand certified interventional
radiologists in the country.
Which imaging modalities will be used more as interventional radiology expands?
I think all of the above. I think MR is just getting its start and is going to be very
important. Fluoroscopy, CT and ultrasound we use pretty routinely in our day-to-day work
in IR. We move somewhat fluidly between them throughout the day, just depending upon what
the needs are of the individual case.
Is flat-panel digital fluoroscopy going to be a major area of growth?
It is going to be extremely important in all of our day-to-day procedures. The diagnostic
angiography we do, the angioplasty and stenting we do, all will be flat-panel, Im
sure. I dont know whether we are talking about two years or five years, but there is
no question it is going to happen.
There are some great studies going on, particularly in the area of fibroid
embolization, to document the degree of radiation exposure and it has been shown to be
pretty low, fortunately. There is no general answer that is going to satisfy everybody,
but basically if you have training and you have experience, we can show that the dosage
rates for a procedure like fibroid embolization are quite low. It is important because a
number of the people that get fibroid embolization are doing that as an alternative,
because they want to maintain fertility. So, we are assuming that they are going to want
to get pregnant and we want to keep the radiation dosage down. We also are starting to
document fluoro times for all interventional procedures. That is becoming part of what we
do, and it is probably going to be required in the future. I think it is just good
practice, you can document learning curves, and behavioral changes in procedures that make
for less radiation dose.
The manufacturers are working on ways to reduce radiation exposure. They are working
with the FDA and I am on a committee of the SCVIR (Society of Cardiovascular and
Interventional Radiology) that interfaces with the FDA about three of four times a year in
an advisory capacity. Radiation exposure is one of the areas that we delve into quite a
bit. Last time we met, there was a presentation by one of the FDA staff on progress in the
area of radiation reduction. They have a new set of specific initiatives in conjunction
with manufacturers that includes automatic features that will be included on new
machinery, such as improved methods of collimation. Those of us who are in the field
manufacturers, the FDA, interventionalists, all of the staff support in the rooms
we constantly have that on our minds. Although it may not appear that way, when you
are in the middle of a complex interventional procedure, that is really the truth. We
concentrate on keeping the radiation dose down.
With regard to awareness of interventional radiology, is the general public
aware that these procedures are available?
In our experience, people are doing a lot more to self-help than they used to. I
dont think that their doctors are necessarily announcing all the alternatives in the
office, not yet, but what is happening as a result of doctors not providing the
information, is patients are becoming suspicious and they are getting antsy and doing
their own thing. The bottom line is, if youre a doctor in the year 2000 and you are
seeing patients in your office with any kind of problem, youd better be prepared to
go over all of the alternatives. As I mentioned during my talk at RSNA, in our own
practice, about two-thirds of the patients who came in for possible fibroid embolization
had made it to the office through non-traditional pathways, basically on their own. I
think that is really important and maybe it is because patients with fibroids are in the
Baby Boomer generation. They are not in the oldest group or the seniors, those people
still arent using computers to the extent that the younger folks are, but I can only
see it increasing. The children of the Boomers will be a lot more computer savvy than we
were and I can only imagine that their use of computers is going to be greater and they
are going to find their way to innovative therapies much easier than their parents. 